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UK Against Fluoridation

Sunday, June 30, 2013

Water Fluoridation Radio Interview with Declan Waugh

Never seen this video before although we know of Declan Waugh.

The Case Against Water Fluoridation (Hamilton Water Fluoridation

Australia - Who wants to be a millionaire? No, make that billionaire?

Average number of teeth lost to tooth decay of people living in households on above $80,000 a year. 3

Average number of teeth lost to tooth decay of people living in households on under $20,000 a year. 10

Fluoridated Australia - Isn't fluoridation supposed to give poor people's children rich people's teeth?

Saturday, June 29, 2013

UK Totton Southampton - Report from Councillor David Harrison

I used my first appearance as a member of the Safe & Healthy People Select Committee at Hampshire County Council to ask a question about fluoride in tap water.

Councillor Liz Fairhurst is new in post as "The Executive Member for Health & Well Being (Public Health)". I asked her what the County Council was proposing to do about the illegal decision by Public Health England to continue with the unpopular scheme to add fluoride to our tap water.

Her answer........ "Be Patient".

Now, of course, I don't know if this means that Public Health England may have had a re-think about their strategy, whether the prospect of further legal challenges has changed minds, or whether Hampshire County Council are working behind the scenes to convince Public Health England not to proceed.

This issue has been running some years now. Campaigners have been unstinting in their opposition. Public mood seems to have hardened against the proposals. Much NHS money has been wasted.

A new law has been passed giving local councils the power to decide such matters, meanwhile Public Health England have been saying that they can go ahead on the basis that they are implementing the existing scheme that pre-dated the new law.

My instinct tells me that the plea for me to "Be Patient" probably has some substance behind it. I certainly hope so. As an opposition member of the council, I'm not in a position to tell the conservatives running Hampshire County Council what to do.

I am satisfied that Councillor Liz Fairhurst is all to aware of public opinion on this subject. However, it would do no harm for anyone to impress upon her the importance of making sure this chemical is kept out of our tap water.

You can e-mail Councillor Liz Fairhurst on liz.fairhurst@hants.gov.uk

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Photo: I used my first appearance as a member of the Safe & Healthy People Select Committee at Hampshire County Council to ask a question about fluoride in tap water.

Councillor Liz Fairhurst is new in post as "The Executive Member for Health & Well Being (Public Health)". I asked her what the County Council was proposing to do about the illegal decision by Public Health England to continue with the unpopular scheme to add fluoride to our tap water.

Her answer........ "Be Patient". 

Now, of course, I don't know if this means that Public Health England may have had a re-think about their strategy, whether the prospect of further legal challenges has changed minds, or whether Hampshire County Council are working behind the scenes to convince Public Health England not to proceed.

This issue has been running some years now. Campaigners have been unstinting in their opposition. Public mood seems to have hardened against the proposals. Much NHS money has been wasted.

 A new law has been passed giving local councils the power to decide such matters, meanwhile Public Health England have been saying that they can go ahead on the basis that they are implementing the existing scheme that pre-dated the new law.

My instinct tells me that the plea for me to "Be Patient" probably has some substance behind it. I certainly hope so. As an opposition member of the council, I'm not in a position to tell the conservatives running Hampshire County Council what to do.

I am satisfied that Councillor Liz Fairhurst is all to aware of public opinion on this subject. However, it would do no harm for anyone to impress upon her the importance of making sure this chemical is kept out of our tap water.

You can e-mail Councillor Liz Fairhurst on liz.fairhurst@hants.gov.uk

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Very intriguing.

#56 Water Fluoridation

USA - Safety issue closes city fluoride room

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A picture showing the corrosive nature
 of the fluoride room. T. (Courtesy photo)
Safety issue closes city fluoride room

An employee safety issue was at the center of a decision to stop putting fluoride in Abilene’s water, in April.
City Manager David Dillner said the emergency safety switch in the fluoride room at the water treatment plant has become corroded making it nonfunctional. If a problem were to arise while an employee is preparing the fluoride, the employee would use that switch to alert other plant workers that they were in distress or that there was a problem.

That fills you with confidence in the water treatment.

Friday, June 28, 2013

NZ - Limit sugary drinks, says dentist

Dr Rob Beaglehole
SWEET TOOTH: Principal dental officer Dr Rob Beaglehole displays the amount of sugar in a 1.5-litre bottle of Coca-Cola.
Limit sugary drinks, says dentist
Health system could be brought 'to its knees'

 City Council to take action on sugary drinks, in the hope it will reduce the daily count of rotten teeth he has to pull.
Dr Beaglehole, the principal dental officer with the Nelson Marlborough District Health Board, has asked the council to instigate a policy that would limit certain types of drinks sold at council venues and events.
He said that on the days he performed dental duties, among a myriad of other dental work he did each week he could extract up to 50 teeth.
He blamed the amount of rotten teeth on sugar, particularly sugar-sweetened drinks.
Dr Beaglehole arrived at the council chamber yesterday with a soft drink bottle empty of its contents, except for a mound of sugar cubes representing the 40 teaspoons of sugar he said was contained in the average 1.5-litre bottle of Coca-Cola.
To reinforce his message, he handed around a packet of rotten teeth, to audible gasps from councillors and some of the people in the public gallery.....

Cheese is Chalk If Fluoride is Fluoride

Cheese is Chalk If Fluoride is Fluoride

Cheese is Chalk If Fluoride is Fluoride Says Hamilton Oncologist
In the USA, it costs fertilizer companies $4000-$7000, per tanker truck, to dispose of fluorosilicic acid, which is considered a toxic pollutant by the environmental protection agency (EPA) . It cannot be legally dumped in any natural water supply, yet is being added to drinking water.
Hamilton Oncologist Dr Anna Goodwin says, “I was shocked to learn that, in the absence of any human studies to prove its safety or efficacy, the fertilizer industry held hands with government agencies (in the USA, Australia, and New Zealand) and fluorosilicic acid was deemed an "acceptable and equivalent" fluoride source, decades ago, completely without any real evidence for this assertion.
“Industry and government holding hands, (of course "for the good of the poor and disadvantaged"-always the way). Its a beautiful thing. There is actually no "science" whatsoever to justify the dispersal of industrial waste in our drinking water. Telling us "its good for our teeth" is pure hubris.
"Fluoride is fluoride" it is said. This is true to the extent that "cheese is chalk". One could live after consuming 2 grams of calcium fluoride (the fluoride that occurs “naturally” in our environment). Such is not the case with fluorosilicic acid. Additionally, since fluorosilicic acid is an industrial waste product, it has many contaminants in the form of lead, arsenic, and cadmium.
"Studies in the USA have shown that black children absorb twice the lead and arsenic from fluoridated drinking water as white children. There is therefore no substance to the assertion that minorities are "disadvantaged" by the removal of fluoride from their drinking water (as the fluoride goes, so goes the lead and arsenic contamination!).
"In contrast to the misrepresentation of the anti-fluoride movement, the true elitists in this debate enjoy promotions and elevated status for advancing industry profits over human health while hypocritically using the "poor and disadvantaged" as their body shield as they attempt to bulldoze any dissent. On the public payroll, they deceive us using our financial resources.
"Hamilton's City Council made a courageous and correct decision to end fluoridation of the city’s water supply. The true cowards are those who would sell the health of their nation to the highest multinational billion dollar industry bidder requiring a toilet in which to dump their waste.
We, as human beings, residents, and rate payers do not accept that our drinking water (and food supply) should be an industry toilet, while we pay for the privilege with our rates and our health. Water fluoridation in New Zealand must stop !”
Dr Anna Goodwin is one of the team of medical doctors and dentists who gave evidence to end fluoridation in Hamilton.
Dr Goodwin will be speaking with two other members of that team, in Auckland at Freeman’s Bay Community Hall 7pm Saturday 29th June in a talk entitled : IS FLUORIDATION SAFE ?

Thursday, June 27, 2013

The Fight Against Fluoride in Ireland Update

Published on 26 Jun 2013
WeAreChange randomly reunites with Walter Graham, an activist and campaigner against water fluoridation. Walter and many others have had a successful victory banning water fluoridation in Northern Ireland and now are fighting to ban it in the Republic of Ireland.

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Ireland - Iva Pocock pays tribute to her late father Robert

The campaign against fluoridation has been going for longer than many people realise. In a moving personal testimony, Iva Pocock pays tribute to her late father Robert – and prepares to appear before the Petitions Committee of the European Parliament...
Iva Pocock, 26 Jun 2013

Over 13 years ago, in February 2000, RTÉ television’s Primetime broadcast a report about fluoridation for which I was interviewed. My dad, Robert Pocock, was there when I was being filmed.
I was representing the environmental organisation, Voice Of Irish Concern For The Environment, and discussed the impact of decades of fluoridation on our waters – our streams, rivers and lakes – and on our health.
I subsequently moved on from my job as an environmental campaigner and from the issue of fluoridation. In contrast, my dad became obsessed with it, to the point that my mum, Kerry, could no longer countenance mention of the word: fluoridation was referred to only as “the wretched F word”.
Dad passed away, very unexpectedly, and prematurely, at a mere 70 years of age, on April 21 this year. His departure leaves a huge hole in my life, and in that of my family – but also amongst the ranks of those who are working to end the hidden medication of citizens with fluoride via the public water supply.
Dad had built up a wealth of knowledge about the issue and had taken every opportunity to bring the truth about fluoridation to the public, not just in Ireland but also around the world. Although I only talked sporadically to him about his work, I know that he was really excited about Hot Press’ decision to break the resounding, almost total media silence concerning 50 years of mandatory fluoridation in Ireland. I know his website irelandagainstfluoridation.org and his conversations provided plenty of data which helped Adrienne Murphy in her series of exposés.
I have reluctantly decided to rejoin the, thankfully, now growing ranks of Irish citizens who are saying ‘no’ to their enforced medication via the public water supply. I say reluctantly because, in a way, I resent having to put my unpaid time into doing something that legions of civil servants and medical professionals should be doing, if they had a bit of backbone and weren’t so concerned with protecting the status quo, and the reputations that they have built up over 50 years of State fluoridation.......

UK - Totton Southampton Echo letter

Wednesday, June 26, 2013

Ireland - 2013 YSI Showcase Award Winners: Little Miss Fluoride Fighters

Sugary Drinks don't just harm teeth

Sugary Drinks Linked to 180,000 Deaths Annually

In 2009, the American Heart Association (AHA) issued a scientific statement3 about sugar intake and heart health, pointing out that there is evidence for a relationship between the two. According to the abstract:
“High intakes of dietary sugars in the setting of a worldwide pandemic of obesity and cardiovascular disease have heightened concerns about the adverse effects of excessive consumption of sugars. In 2001 to 2004, the usual intake of added sugars for Americans was 22.2 teaspoons per day... Between 1970 and 2005, average annual availability of sugars/added sugars increased by 19%... Soft drinks and other sugar-sweetened beverages are the primary source of added sugars in Americans’ diets. Excessive consumption of sugars has been linked with several metabolic abnormalities and adverse health conditions, as well as shortfalls of essential nutrients...”

Tuesday, June 25, 2013

Chinese Suppliers Admit Fluoride is Poison

Toothpaste Has 5000% More Fluoride Than Fluoridated Water

Monday, June 24, 2013

Doug Cross of UKCAF and Professor Chris Exley have recently had letters published in the on-line British Medical Journal:


Their two letters are close to the top of the listing. Could you all please read the letters and then click on 'Like' in both cases. The more 'likes' they get the more chances there are that the letters will be printed in the hard copy BMJ. This progression of letters and articles from electronic to hard copy is more important that at first realised.

I really do hope that you will all take this easy step to 'like' the two articles.

Can you also forward this request to all of your relevant contacts.

Camelford: the aluminium sulphate added to the treated water supply contained 7ppm fluoride. The two authors are convinced that fluoride increases the mobility of aluminium so that aluminium is enabled to cross the blood-brain-barrier (b-b-b). The aluminium then stores itself in the hippocampus which is the site which is most studied by many trying to work out why alzheimer's disease occurs. Many victims of Camelford have had, or are suffering from the agressive form of Alzheimers' Disease.

A recent article by Richard Sauerheber (www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2013/439490 ) states in reference to the fluoride anion that "...its toxicity depends on the environment in which it resides" (End of 2nd para., p.2). As far as Alzheimer's Disease is concerned, the presence of aluminium is the 'environment' in which fluoride is rendered toxic. The toxicity is the ability fluoride has of 'dragging' aluminium through the b-b-b.
From Joy

Joy Warren, BSc. (Hons) Environmental Science
Coordinator, West Midlands Against Fluoridation
Email: wmaf@live.co.uk and Joy.Warren@live.co.uk
Website: http://www.wmaf.org.uk
Tel: 0044 (0)2476 467562

New Zealand - Councillor Dave Macpherson talks about Water Fluoridation

New Zealand - Buy your own bottled water

Buy your own, objectors told

People living in Marlborough who are opposed to having fluoride in the public water supply should drink bottled water from supermarkets so the rest of the community can benefit, Nelson Marlborough medical officer of health Ed Kiddle says.
The controversy around putting fluoride in the water supply was similar in many ways to the immunisation debate, Dr Kiddle said. All the evidence backed water fluoridation and immunising young children but people had the right to choose, he said.
It was about finding a balance between the greater public good and individual choice, he said.
"The evidence is very good for putting fluoride in the water supply and people should be able to choose if they want fluoride in their water," he said.
"Those who don't want fluoride should source their water elsewhere - like bottled water."

Sunday, June 23, 2013

Actor and comedian Rob Schneider

Enjoy Summer, Wear Flannel, Comedian Says
Story Published: Jun 20, 2013 at 7:13 AM EDT

Interviewed live on 7 News This Morning, Schneider took a shot at north country weather.

This week actor, comedian, and environmentalist Rob Schneiderexpressed his strong opposition to water fluoridation during an interview with Fox news affiliate WNYF-TV in Watertown, New York. Schneider calls fluoride a “toxic poison” and urges people to get involved, saying “get it out of your water…you have to fight for it

Saturday, June 22, 2013

Uk - Echo letter

FAN newsletter

There was a major fluoride-free victory this month in New Zealand, and today is the deadline for fluoridation to be shut off for the 150,000 residents in the city of Hamilton. On June 5, the Hamilton city council vote 7-1 to make the city the second largest unfluoridated community in the country.
While the effort was spearheaded by Fluoride Action Network New Zealand, there were many others involved, including Fluoride Free Hamilton, the members of the fluoride Tribunal, the 120 people who testified at the hearings (including FAN Director Paul Connett, PhD.), and the nearly 1,400 residents who petitioned the council to end fluoridation. Here is a much more comprehensive list put together by Fluoride Free Hamilton of experts who testified and supplied written testimony.
The victory has caused the dental community in New Zealand to attack the decision and call for a referendum to overturn the council’s vote. Mary Byrne, the National Coordinator for FAN-NZ, wrote a comprehensive review of the backlash following the Hamilton victory.
Listen to Dr. Paul Connett discuss his thoughts on the historic victory in Hamilton in this short radio interview while on the Vinny Eastwood Show.
More Celebrities Oppose Fluoridation
This week actor, comedian, and environmentalist Rob Schneider expressed his strong opposition to water fluoridation during an interview with Fox news affiliate WNYF-TV in Watertown, New York. Schneider calls fluoride a “toxic poison” and urges people to get involved, saying “get it out of your water…you have to fight for it.”   His response is at the 4:00 minute mark
Schneider’s comments come as the city council in Watertown, NY is debating ending fluoridation.   You can learn more about the campaign in Watertown, and get involved by visiting Watertown Anti-Fluoridation Action
Comedian and political commentator, Bill Maher also recently spoke out in opposition to fluoridation. While being interviewed he was asked what he thought about the recent fluoridation vote in Portland, Oregon. He replied, “I would have voted no as well…don’t add it to water, let consumers make their own choice.”
Maher and Schneider are not the only celebrities who have openly opposed fluoridation. Earlier this year Ed Begley Jr. and Ed Asner filmed fluoride-free public service announcements. In years past, actor Martin Sheen, actor and fitness expert Suzanne Somers, bodybuilding world champion Dorian Yates, and actor and former Governor Jessie Ventura have all come out against fluoridation, bringing greater awareness to the issue.

Fluoride advocates can’t back down now

IF you want a classic case of “experts” calling the shots and then being too caught up in their own web of fallacy to feel able to back down, there is no example more glaring than the fluoride debate.

The main argument for the safety of fluoridated community water supplies comes from three American scientists, Gerald Cox of the Mellon Institute, Robert Keogh of the Kettering Laboratory and Harold Hodge who was the chief toxicologist for the Manhattan Project which developed the atomic bomb.

Hodge was the main scientific voice used to push the view that 1 part per million was a safe fluoride dose. This is the same guy who injected people with plutonium and uranium in 1945 and one of his major concerns was fluoride, because you need huge amounts of fluoride to make atomic bombs.

The Mellon Institute notably supported the use of asbestos at the time and produced “research” showing that asbestos was not a cause of lung cancer.

The Kettering Laboratory bloke Robert Keogh notably also supported the use of lead in petrol and his laboratory was funded by corporations like ALCOA, US Steel, Dupont, Monsanto and even the National Institute of Dental Research.

The Kettering laboratory worked in concert with a group called the “fluorine lawyers committee” to defend their corporate clients from litigation. These “experts” sold us the notion that hard-to-get-rid-of industrial waste was good for our teeth and could be sold to local bodies for profit and added to the water supply, rather than dumped as an expense.

The PR campaign that sold the idea of fluoridated water to the American public was run by Edward Bernays — Sigmund Freud’s nephew, who also ran pro-smoking campaigns for big tobacco companies of that time.

Exposure to fluoride at rates greater than 1 part per million is definitely bad for you and can cause a lower IQ, bone damage and arthritis.

The main source of damage to humans in exposure to atomic radiation is actually overexposure to fluorine.

Fluoride poisoning depends on how much fluoridated water you ingest and if the fluoride is in the water, there is no way to control the dose. For example if you are a small baby and you are bottle-fed with milk made up from fluoridated water, you take in vastly more fluorine than a baby who is breast fed.

The condition of dental fluorosis is caused by ingested fluoride and has nothing to do with poor teeth cleaning habits. High fluoride intake is shown to depress thyroid function, causing lethargy and chronic fatigue. Maori and Islanders are disproportionately affected because people with kidney disease and diabetes don’t handle fluoride as well as people with healthy, balanced diets and less sugar intake. Another at-risk group is seniors who are at risk of greater bone damage and arthritis because fluoride absorption affects the absorption of iron and calcium in bones and can cause gastro-intestinal problems.

The public health groups that have supported water fluoridation for some 60 years now have too much to lose by backing down after all those years, with questions of liability and litigation that they don’t wish to face.

Dentists are not required to know anything about kidney or thyroid function, so they don’t consider these things when they pronounce it safe.

There’s a heap more I could say on the subject but that should be enough to convince most sane people that there is scientific evidence that fluoride in the water is one of the biggest medical misadventures of all time.

Friday, June 21, 2013

The Truth About Fluoride - Paul Connett

Thursday, June 20, 2013

Petition: Sydney Water Corporation (to remove Fluoride) from our water supply

EU asked for help in battle of fluoridation

’Everytime we fill a kettle or mix up a baby’s bottle we are dosed with fluoride’- Pocock
Tim O'Brien
Wed, Jun 19, 2013, 20:50
Irish journalist Iva Pocock appeared before the EU Petitions Committee today as part of ongoing moves to end fluoridation of Irish water supplies.
Ms Pocock was representing her father the late Robert Pocock, a long-standing campaigner on the issue, who passed away unexpectedly less than two months ago. She told the committee residents of the Republic were the only residents of an EU state to be “mandatorily fluoridated by our Government”.
“Everytime we reach for a glass of water, fill the kettle for a cup tea or mix up a baby’s milkbottle we are forced to ingest fluoride. Whether we weigh 5kg or 50kg, are on dialysis for diabetes, undergoing chemotherapy or taking any amount of other medication, we are being dosed with fluoride” she told the committee.
Maintaining that consumers in Ireland and 10 percent of those in Spain and the UK “are being medicated by our Governments without any objection from the European Commission” she said the vast majority of national and local governments accepted that fluoridation was obsolete.
In Ireland, the Government through the Irish Medicines Board refers to fluoridation as a public health measure. But Ms Pocock said she contended, as did her father, that fluoridation is a breach of the Medicinal Products Directive 2001/83/EC.
This was because the substance that is being used “to fluoridate the Irish people”, hydrofluorosilicic acid, was being presented as having properties for preventing a disease, in this case dental caries, she said.
“Any substance that is presented as having properties for preventing a disease as defined under this Directive is a medicinal product. Hydrofluorosilicic acid is therefore a medicinal product”.
The hydrofluorosilicic acid that is imported into Ireland from Spain and purchased by the Irish Government in order to prevent a human disease, dental caries, requires a licence under the Medicinal Products Directive, she insisted.
“I am convinced that this product is being added illegally and in breach of of EU law. As guardians of the treaties and the enforcers of EU legislation the Commission you would be remiss, now that it has been made aware of the facts, not to enforce the Medicinal Products directive” she said.
Ms Pocock called on the Petitions Committee to the Irish Government that it therefore requires a medicinal products licence for the hydrofluorosilicic acid with which it medicates the Irish people.

Ireland - Council cannot stop water fluoridation

Council cannot stop water


Leitrim County Council cannot stop the practice of fluoridation of water supplies.
Leitrim County Council cannot stop the practice of fluoridation of water supplies.
A spokesperson for Leitrim County Council has said staff have “no option” but to continue the fluoridation of water supplies in the county.
Cllr Sean McDermott put forward a motion at the last Council meeting asking the Council to refrain from adding fluorosilicic acid to drinking water, citing growing public health concerns.
“There are a lot of concerns regarding the side effect of adding this chemical to the water and what impact it is having on people’s health,” he said.
“I have received a number of calls on this. People don’t want this stuff added to the water supply.”
Cllr Martin Kenny seconded Cllr McDermott’s call for the practise to cease noting that Ireland was the “only country in the EU adding fluoride to its water supply”.
He argued that, while it may be argued that fluoride has a positive impact on dental health, he said there were plenty of medical studies which showed just how bad fluoride was for your liver and other organs in high doses.
However, despite support from other councillors, Cllr McDermott was told that the fluoridation of drinking water was mandatory and had been enforced by law in Ireland since 1963.
“Both the capital costs and the operation costs (of fluoridation) are covered by the HSE,” added the Director of Service, Infrastructure.
He added that people who did not wish to consume fluoridated water could opt to use filters to remove it from their drinking water although some councillors remained critical of this suggestion saying it would make more sense to stop adding the chemical to our water in the first place.

Wednesday, June 19, 2013

New Zealand - Get both sides of fluoride debate

Get both sides of fluoride debate

 False teeth in a glass of water in front of the Mastertin Municipal Building for Fluoride story.
I have never had much time for the Fluoride Action Network. Give them a moment in the sun, such as when a reporter rings them as part of a story, and they can sound really exciting. Words like toxicity, hazardous and cancer are buzzy words that sound good in a story. "Scientific evidence" is another phrase that gets thrown around a lot.

I can recollect, when reporting for the Kapiti News, getting a fluoride missive about toxicity levels, but basic maths showed it had calculated the percentages wrong.

Normally, material from FAN gets the delete button or the bin, but all of a sudden, there it is on the front page of the Wairarapa Times-Age. And that's because I had to turn around and say to my reporters: yes, I know a few days ago I told you this stuff was scaremongering rubbish, but now it's news, so get going.

Since Hamilton cut fluoride from its supply, and Hastings is asking the question of its ratepayers, fluoride has become topical. And while I might make my feelings plain in an editorial, a paper's job is to report on circumstances and keep people informed. Masterton still has fluoride, therefore we have to make sure the question gets asked here. From this, the public is better informed towards making up its own mind.

Masterton received seven submissions to its draft plan asking for the removal of fluoride. Only two of these submissions were from Masterton residents. It is standard practice for FAN to place a submission to every council, and they ask their members, regardless of where they live, to do the same. Their website provides attachments and material to support a submission. Admittedly in Hamilton, there were 1385 submissions against fluoride, so there was clearly an engaged debate that went beyond rent-a-voice submissions.

Interest groups can be useful voices of democracy and freedom of speech and they will have done a lot of the research for you. But like the 1080 debate, their research is one-sided. And these groups do not shy away from exaggeration - or worse - to convince you their message is right. My advice is: seek information from both sides.

Shows how an editor has a huge input on what we read. Although his advice on seeking information from both sides is right.

Best comment left is this:
I know Andrew from reading what you have written that the actual research you have done on fluoridation is, well how can I put this, I will try to be nice. very sadly lacking. Have you for instance ever watched a YouTube documentary called, Interview with Dr John Colquhoun 1998. No you haven't because if you had you would have had a very different point of view! He was New Zealand's foremost foremost government fluoridation advocate back in the 80's and was responsible for the fluoridation of Auckland City. He was also given the task of seeing all of NZ fluoridated. Then he discovered that the science he had been following was seriously flawed. He did a 180 degree turn around and against the advice of his MOH bosses went public and as a consequence lost his job. He was a hero because he followed his conscience and amongst other things said that poisoning the children of New Zealand for no reason made no sense at all!

Tuesday, June 18, 2013

NZ - Is the science on fluoridation really settled?

Is the science on fluoridation really settled?
Queenslanders for Safe Water Air and Food Inc
Tuesday 18 June 2013, 3:02PM
Media release from Queenslanders for Safe Water Air and Food Inc

Health authorities in New Zealand, Australia, the USA and a few other countries endorse fluoridation in glowing terms, proclaiming the science is settled, and the benefits enormous. Opponents are accused of misinterpreting the science, peddling pseudoscience, wearing tin foil hats or being conspiracy theorists.

Yet there is a growing number of scientists, dentists and other professionals with impeccable credentials calling for an end to fluoridation worldwide - due to health concerns, poor evidence of benefits, or ethical considerations. This indicates that the science is far from settled. So who do we believe? The work of two former proponents who 'changed their minds' is enlightening.

The late Dr John Colquhoun, former Chief Dental Officer in Auckland, was employed to promote fluoridation throughout New Zealand. After finding evidence that fluoridation was ineffective, he spoke out against it and wrote, Why I changed my mind about water fluoridation.

Dr. Hardy Limeback, recently retired Professor and former Head of Preventive Dentistry the University of Toronto, in 1999 issued a public apology to his faculty and students for having unintentionally misled them about fluoridation, and in 2000 issued the statement, Why I am now officially opposed to adding fluoride to drinking water.

Opponents of fluoridation point to many issues, including dental-fluorosis, lowered thyroid function, and an increased rate of hip fractures. Blood levels during lifelong consumption can harm heart, bone and brain. There are now 36 human studies linking fluoride exposure to lowering of IQ in children. A 2012 Harvard University review of 27 studies (with fluoride concentrations at only modestly raised levels) found an average lowering of 7 IQ points.

As Dr Paul Connett has often explained, with water fluoridation you can control the concentration, but you cannot control the dose, as that depends on how much a person drinks. This is poor medical practice. Also people are exposed to fluoride from many sources besides water, and this exposure has increased significantly since fluoridation first began. So how can anyone guarantee there is an adequate margin of safety, sufficient to protect everyone in the community, between the doses reported to cause adverse effects in the National Research Council 2006 review, and the doses that people are likely to receive from chronic ingestion of fluoridated water, together with fluoride from all other sources - including tea, foods processed with fluoridated water, dental products, pharmaceuticals, pesticides etc?

Then there is the question of ethics. Forget the semantics of whether or not the industrial 'byproduct' used in water fluoridation is or is not considered medication or a nutrient. We each have the right to informed consent regarding the medications or nutritional supplements we ingest. Water fluoridation strips us of that right. Once fluoride is added to the water supply it is virtually impossible to escape, because even if we buy bottled water or install a reverse osmosis filtration system, we are exposed through our food.

In light of all this, shouldn't the precautionary principle apply regarding water fluoridation? Remember, the science was supposedly settled on asbestos, leaded petrol and Vioxx, before it was shown that the science was wrong.

Monday, June 17, 2013

UK Daily Echo

Sunday, June 16, 2013

How to Decalcify Your Pineal Gland

Saturday, June 15, 2013

USA - Fluoride supporters unwilling to debate

Fluoride supporters unwilling to debate
FRIDAY, JUNE 14, 2013

In response to the editorial on June 9 regarding fluoride. The simplest way that promoters of fluoridation could demonstrate that their case for fluoridation was strong and scientifically-based would be take on qualified opponents of fluoridation in open public debate.
Their refusal to do so speaks volumes on their lack of confidence on the science of this issue. Instead of debate and use of the primary literature they resort to solo performances and the constant reference to outdated and meaningless endorsements by “higher authorities.” Such appeals to authority over primary science should have ended with the Pope’s clash with Galileo and the scientific revolution that followed.
I am prepared to return to Watertown to publicly debate this issue with any dentist, doctor, scientist or public health official (including Jay Kumar) who believes in fluoridation, should they find the confidence to defend their belief system. Hopefully, the editor of the Watertown Times, instead of blindly urging the continuation of this practice, could use his or her influence to find a fluoridation promoter willing to participate in such a debate in Watertown.
Meanwhile, I think readers can gauge the lack of scientific professionalism of the American Dental Association in this statement it made in a white paper from 1979:
“Individual dentists must be convinced that they need not be familiar with scientific reports of laboratory and field investigations on fluoridation to be effective participants in the promotion program and that nonparticipation is overt neglect of professional responsibility.” (ADA White Paper on Fluoridation, 1979)
It is clear that both bureaucrats in state health departments and members of the dental profession are under enormous pressure to toe the party line on this outdated practice. People of good will should insist that science, not authority, be the basis of public health policy, especially with one which has the potential to impact the health of millions of Americans. Only this way will governmental regulatory agencies and professional bodies begin to regain the trust of the American people and in this case the residents of Watertown.
Professor Paul Connett


UK - Echo letter

Australia - NSW Greens call for fluoride inquiry

NSW Greens call for fluoride inquiry

Party says people remain concerned about the chemical after court rejected campaign to stop it being added to drinking wate
Close-up of a man smiling, white teeth
Close-up of a man smiling, white teeth Photograph: Getty Images/Getty Images
The New South Wales Greens will press the state government to hold a public inquiry into the safety of fluoridated water, after the NSW Court of Appeal ruled against an anti-fluoride campaigner's bid to prevent the chemical being added to drinking water.
The court decided unanimously that Ballina Shire Council, via Rous Water, should be allowed to add fluoride to water in five processing plants across the Northern Rivers region of NSW.
Al Oshlack, who initiated legal action in 2012 to prevent fluoridation of the water, was ordered to pay the legal costs of the council and Rous Water, estimated to be around $500,000.
The NSW Department of Health had directed that fluoride be added to water supplies in the Lismore, Ballina and Richmond Valley shires. Oshlack appealed an earlier decision by the NSW Land and Environment Court to allow the fluoridation.
However, the Greens will call on the state government, which has supported the adding of fluoride to water since 1957, to hold a public review of the evidence supporting its use.
NSW Greens MP John Kaye told Guardian Australia that a public review would help reassure communities concerned about drinking fluoride.
"The peer-reviewed evidence says that there are no adverse health consequences but the community on the north coast is concerned about mass fluoridation and we owe it to them to review the evidence again to be sure if it's the right way to go," he said.
"I'd be surprised if there were any other answer that comes out, but it's appropriate that the government responds to community concern and is open with evidence."
Mainstream science has broadly supported the use of fluoride, with studies pointing to its efficacy in fighting tooth decay.
2007 review by the Australian government's National Health and Medical Research Council found that the "existing body of evidence strongly suggests that water fluoridation is beneficial at reducing dental caries".
Despite this, anti-fluoride lobbies such as Queenslanders for Safe Waterclaim that fluoride is unnecessary and can cause skeletal problems. Activists point to alleged dangers including birth defects, reduced fertility and even cancer.
Kaye denied the Greens were indulging in "pseudo-science", similar to climate change denialism, by calling for an inquiry.
"The weight of peer-reviewed evidence has been so in favour of fluoridation that we all became comfortable with that and didn't hear the concerns of those against it," he said.
"We should listen to those concerns and be comfortable with presenting the evidence, just as we are with climate change and wind turbines. The mistake would be to ignore these people."
The Greens appear split on the issue of fluoride, with Lismore councillor Vanessa Elkins launching a Change.org petition to fight the introduction of fluoride, which will be added to the region's water supply within the next 18 months.
"We had a fabulous dental care program in schools but that was scrapped when the NSW Health Department started lobbying for fluoride," she said.
"It shifted the cost of dental care onto water users, meaning that we spend $200,000 on getting a chemical from China for our water that we could use for dentists in a clinic that currently has a two-month waiting list.....

Friday, June 14, 2013

The Great Culling FLUORIDE in Our Water

Central cause of tooth decay overlooked

The main cause of tooth decay is sugar and any discussion about fluoride should include the health impacts of soft drinks, says Nelson Marlborough District Health Board principal dental officer Roby Beaglehole.

Sugar was the common risk factor in tooth decay, obesity and type 2 diabetes, which was likely to bring the New Zealand health system "to its knees" in 10 to 15 years, he said.

The country needed a national strategy to reduce sugar consumption.

"From a public health policy perspective, we need to target sugar, in particular sugar-sweetened beverages like Coke, Pepsi and Powerade."

A 1.5-litre bottle of Coke had 40 teaspoons of sugar and was the No 1 selling item in New Zealand supermarkets, he said.

The Government needed to treat sugary drinks the same way it treated alcohol and tobacco, through taxation and limiting companies' advertising and sponsorship deals. The tax needed to be at least 20 per cent to be effective, Dr Beaglehole said.

"And we need to limit access by removing sugary drinks from vending machines," he said.

"McDonald's sponsor children's soccer where the player of the day gets a free Big Mac voucher. So if we are talking about fluoride, let's also discuss sugar. If you can reduce sugar consumption across the population that can have a massive impact on a number of diseases. People think that's a bit radical but type 2 diabetes will probably bring the health system to its knees in our lifetime."

Thursday, June 13, 2013

Your Teeth to Blame for Allergy Issues?

 Your Teeth to Blame for Allergy Issues?
By: Nora Hartfeil
Updated: June 12, 2013

Next time you're feeling under the weather, you may want to head to the dentist.
"Your oral health is so connected to your overall health", says Dr. Christie Leedy, of Abilene Dental.
Whether you're coughing, wheezing, or sneezing, the problem could be in your mouth, not your nose.
"The bacteria, if stirred up in your mouth, can also get down into your system, and into your lungs. That can cause less oxygen to get into your system", says Dr. Leedy.
Bacteria can break off of cavities, and once it hits the bloodstream, your immune system is officially under attack, often causing allergy-like symptoms.
But allergy medications may not help either.
"They are helping dry your sinuses but it will also dry up your mouth. And then you don't have good saliva to help wash the bacteria away. So it's just like this domino effect of one and then the other", explains Leedy.
So besides maintaining you're pearly whites, taking care of your oral hygiene could help you brush up on your overall health.
Doctor Leedy also tells us tooth decay and cavities can lead to much more serious health concerns like heart problems and high blood pressure.
The best way to prevent tooth decay is regular brushing, flossing and dental visits.


Wednesday, June 12, 2013

The nonsense of water fluoridation by Walter Graham

Worth seeing again.

New Zealand - Fluoride debate hijacked

Fluoride debate hijacked, says PM's science adviser

The Prime Minister's chief science adviser says the fluoride debate has been hijacked by a misinterpretation of science.
Hamilton District Council voted last week to remove fluoride from its water supply, with other councils around the country looking at doing the same.
Sir Peter Gluckman said on Wednesday that the science of fluoride in water is settled and the fluoride debate is a question of values in society.
He drew similarities with introducing a seatbelt law, where the benefits were long proven, but whether to apply the science-based knowledge was a question of societal values.

Sir Peter said ultimately, this kind of debate must be resolved through the political process.

Dangerous viewpoint by hook or by crook they intend to get it into our water?

USA - The fluoride fallacy

The fluoride fallacy

Fluoride is coming soon to a tap near you! 
...It’s not just about teeth. What if a mother, rich or poor, decides she doesn’t want her children exposed to this toxic substance? How does mom control the dosage to her young child’s vulnerable developing body? I defy any dentist, doctor, or public health official to tell me that this stuff is safe when the entire body is being dosed. Could fluoride be contributing to increases in cancer, bone disease, arthritis, Alzheimer’s, etc.? Topically applied to teeth, short-term maybe, but only pharmaceutical grade, not industrial toxic runoff, and not systemic, and definitely not long term. No way!
I absolutely care — as a health-conscious person, as a conservationist, as an organic gardener, as a realtor who values the properties I sell and the one I own, as someone who takes my civic duty seriously, as an American and defender of our beautiful coastal quality of life, and if nothing else, as a rate payer. My city council and elected representatives are obligated to explain this. Must we tear this town apart with more lawsuits because “Sacra-Demento” refuses to listen to the will of the people and our new city council is just more of the same old, same old? Is fluoridation right for us? Absolutely not.

Tuesday, June 11, 2013

Open Your Mind (OYM) Radio - Aisling Fitzgibbon - June 9th 2013

Parliament- no agreement

Fluoride: Drinking Water

Mike Thornton: To ask the Secretary of State for Health whether a formal agreement was signed between the now abolished South Central Strategic Health Authority and Southern Water to add fluoride to the water supply in (a) Southampton and (b)the South West Hampshire area. [158592]
Anna Soubry: No agreement was signed between South Central Strategic Health Authority, prior to its abolition, and Southern Water to add fluoride to the water supply in Southampton and the South West Hampshire area. The position, as at the end of March 2013, was that the strategic health authority was in discussions with Southern Water in relation to agreeing the terms of the agreement.
By virtue of amendments made to the relevant legislation by the Health and Social Care Act 2012, the statutory functions of strategic health authorities in relation to fluoridation have transferred to the Secretary of State.

Monday, June 10, 2013

Quick analysis of the Alex Jones BBC Interview - 2013

Includes information on Fluoridation.
Educational on how news can be presented to influence you without you knowing

Who's Crazy?? Compare This with the BBC Propaganda!! Alex Jones Speaks

Magnesium Health: Magnesium vs. Fluoride

Forget the Nazi bit but still some good advice.

Sunday, June 09, 2013

New Zealand Success on Fluoride and Weed! Vinny And Susanne Posel on

Not very serious but amusing.

Saturday, June 08, 2013

New Zealand letter

'At least one will die' as a result of Hamilton's flouridation
Saturday, 8 June, 2013 - 12:35
By M.Godfrey MB.BS. (retired GP) Tauranga

My profession has had a number of embarrassments either due to over-enthusiastic endorsements of a new drug or uncritical acceptance of professorial dictates and as Max Planck so aptly put it: "Changes in science occur funeral by funeral" as we have to wait 50 years for both the professors and their students to die or at least retire.

Water fluoridation using the scrubbed wastes from fertiliser chimneys has now been around for 50 years with the Republic of Ireland (RoI), the USA, Australia and New Zealand being the main users.

A recently released environmental survey from the RoI with mandated fluoridation for 50 years, compared 28 disease incidences with unfluoridated Northern Ireland and the EU. It has shown statistically highly significant and indeed shocking differences.

Diabetes was the highest at over 400% and as this country has almost the same population we can logically assume that the same applies here.

Indeed, preliminary findings have shown similar patterns in all four fluoridating countries. Other markedly elevated incidences included dementia, SIDS (NZ the highest in the world), congenital malformations, impaired thyroid metabolism, chronic respiratory diseases, arthritis, and cancers including breast, prostate.and bone. Osteosarcoma (bone cancer) is thankfully rare but usually fatal.

The association with fluoride exposure in young boys has been proven and with Hamilton having about 4% of the NZ population there would be a statistical certainty that at least one young man will still die within the next few years as a result of that city's past fluoridation.

All of the above adverse health effects linked to contaminated industrial silico-fluorides are costing the country both in human misery and in an ever-increasing health budget. All this is for the sake of saving one tooth according to the latest Australian dental research that studied the effect of 45 years of fluoride (Slade and Spencer 2013). Notably, the same dentists together with Armfield have been trying for years to demonstrate effectiveness.

The pejoritavely identified "nutters, flat-earthers and vociferous minority" campaigning against fluoride include Professors of Dentistry, Professors of Medicine, Nobel Laureates in Chemistry, doctors in numerous specialities and dentists who have all taken the time to actually critically investigate the evidence. They wouldn't be doing it without reason or for pleasure. "Dogs can howl but the caravan won't stop".

İt ürür, kervan yürür.
Translation: The dogs bark but caravan still moves on.
English equivalent: The dogs bark, but the caravan passes on.
Meaning: Great achievements can't be prevented by insignificant people.